Boy, this group got noisy all of a sudden...

[Tattoo Vampire]

.... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy fix, and no
more morons in my article list. :-P

[Hadron]

Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:

> .... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy fix, and no
> more morons in my article list. :-P

You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and morons
that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using killfiles
and who screwed up their killfile rules.

Well done!

And dont forget to add sMarti .. he uses Windows now apparently. But
sounds more like another Greycloud/FLatty/Clog con job to me.

--
A certain COLA "advocate" faking his user-agent in order to pretend to be a Linux
user: User-Agent: Outlook 5.5 (WinNT 5.0), User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0
(Linux), Message-ID: <wPGdnd3NnOM...@comcast.com>

[Tattoo Vampire]

Hadron<hadro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well done!

Not quite - I missed your insane ass. Fixed. :-P

[Chris Ahlstrom]

After swilling some grog, Hadron belched this bit o' wisdom:

> Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:
>
>> .... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy fix, and no
>> more morons in my article list. :-P
>
> You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and morons
> that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using killfiles

"Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is "censorship".

<chuckle>

--
The first thing I do in the morning is brush my teeth and sharpen my tongue.
-- Dorothy Parker

[William Poaster]

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 07:38:40 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> After swilling some grog, Hadron belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:
>>
>>> .... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy fix,
>>> and no more morons in my article list. :-P

<The trolling "Hadron" fuckwit said nothing, as usual>

> "Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is
> "censorship".
> <chuckle>

Which goes to show what an ill-educated dumbass he is.
Trolls hate being ignored, & that jackass is no exception.

--
3 year old installing Ubuntu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObsYo3PZ7Yo&feature=related
Something at which "Hadron" failed!

[flatfish+++]

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 07:11:20 +0100, Hadron wrote:

> Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:
>
>> .... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy fix, and no
>> more morons in my article list. :-P
>
> You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and morons
> that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using killfiles
> and who screwed up their killfile rules.
>
> Well done!
>
> And dont forget to add sMarti .. he uses Windows now apparently. But
> sounds more like another Greycloud/FLatty/Clog con job to me.

Hadron, you are completely incorrect.
Greycloud, me and sMarti are 3 different people.

And we always have been.

Marti even has a new song up on his Soundclick page with Bill Gates
voice in it.
So how did I manage to forge that?


--
flatfish+++
PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

[Hadron]

flatfish+++ <phlat...@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 07:11:20 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:
>>
>>> .... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy fix, and no
>>> more morons in my article list. :-P
>>
>> You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and morons
>> that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using killfiles
>> and who screwed up their killfile rules.
>>
>> Well done!
>>
>> And dont forget to add sMarti .. he uses Windows now apparently. But
>> sounds more like another Greycloud/FLatty/Clog con job to me.
>
> Hadron, you are completely incorrect.
> Greycloud, me and sMarti are 3 different people.
>
> And we always have been.
>
> Marti even has a new song up on his Soundclick page with Bill Gates
> voice in it.
> So how did I manage to forge that?

Greycloud is NOT the original Greycloud.

But one or two of sMarti's sentences sound very, very familiar to
certain "MS Shill" types here ... just saying like!

[flatfish+++]

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:53:04 +0100, Hadron wrote:

> flatfish+++ <phlat...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 07:11:20 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:
>>>
>>>> .... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy fix, and no
>>>> more morons in my article list. :-P
>>>
>>> You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and morons
>>> that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using killfiles
>>> and who screwed up their killfile rules.
>>>
>>> Well done!
>>>
>>> And dont forget to add sMarti .. he uses Windows now apparently. But
>>> sounds more like another Greycloud/FLatty/Clog con job to me.
>>
>> Hadron, you are completely incorrect.
>> Greycloud, me and sMarti are 3 different people.
>>
>> And we always have been.
>>
>> Marti even has a new song up on his Soundclick page with Bill Gates
>> voice in it.
>> So how did I manage to forge that?
>
> Greycloud is NOT the original Greycloud.
>
> But one or two of sMarti's sentences sound very, very familiar to
> certain "MS Shill" types here ... just saying like!

We all feed off each others lines, like LIEing for LIEnux. I made
that one up myself.

The Greycloud is the same Greycloud.
If you read back in the archives, you will see that Greycloud was
moving to a particular part of the country to take care of his mom.
He left COLA, came back, left again off and on for a while.

His ip address location matches where he was going to go live.
His ip address is broadband from a company not available in my
geography and not even close. He talks about really old technology,
Sun and DEC in particular and has been for years.
Etc.
Someone would have had to study his posting over the years to pull
this off. It's just not possible. And then why? It would be easier to
pick a lesser poster who had less personal details and use that for
the scam.

If it's a forgery, it's literally perfect but in any case it's not
me.

[GreyCloud]

On 4/7/2013 7:53 AM, Hadron wrote:
> flatfish+++ <phlat...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 07:11:20 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:
>>>
>>>> .... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy fix, and no
>>>> more morons in my article list. :-P
>>>
>>> You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and morons
>>> that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using killfiles
>>> and who screwed up their killfile rules.
>>>
>>> Well done!
>>>
>>> And dont forget to add sMarti .. he uses Windows now apparently. But
>>> sounds more like another Greycloud/FLatty/Clog con job to me.
>>
>> Hadron, you are completely incorrect.
>> Greycloud, me and sMarti are 3 different people.
>>
>> And we always have been.
>>
>> Marti even has a new song up on his Soundclick page with Bill Gates
>> voice in it.
>> So how did I manage to forge that?
>
> Greycloud is NOT the original Greycloud.
>

I am the original GreyCloud.
But that is up for you to decide.

[Tattoo Vampire]

Chris Ahlstrom <OFee...@teleworm.us> wrote:

> "Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is "censorship".
>
> <chuckle>

Hardon Quirk is a fucking idiot.

[Tattoo Vampire]

GreyCloud <mi...@cumulus.com> wrote:

> I am the original GreyCloud.
> But that is up for you to decide.

No, you're not. And I missed you on the filter update. Fixed now. :-P

[Homer]

Verily I say unto thee that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:

> After swilling some grog, Hadron belched this bit o' wisdom:
>> Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:
>>>
>>> .... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy
>>> fix, and no more morons in my article list. :-P
>>
>> You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and
>> morons that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using
>> killfiles
>
> "Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is
> "censorship".

Presumably in the same way that not attending a Tea Party convention is
tantamount to "censoring" right-wing extremism.

> <chuckle>

--
K. | "You see? You cannot kill me. There is no flesh
http://slated.org | and blood within this cloak to kill. There is
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | only an idea. And ideas are bulletproof."
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 150 days | ~ V for Vendetta.

[GreyCloud]

Guffaw!!! So you are just showing your incompetence, eh?

[Cola Zealot]

Hadron wrote:
> flatfish+++ <phlat...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 07:11:20 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:
>>>
>>>> .... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy
>>>> fix, and no more morons in my article list. :-P
>>>
>>> You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and
>>> morons that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG
>>> using killfiles and who screwed up their killfile rules.
>>>
>>> Well done!
>>>
>>> And dont forget to add sMarti .. he uses Windows now apparently. But
>>> sounds more like another Greycloud/FLatty/Clog con job to me.
>>
>> Hadron, you are completely incorrect.
>> Greycloud, me and sMarti are 3 different people.

"Clog" has never impersonated sMarti.
Could not be done b.t.w. if you take a closer look at his posting style.

>>
>> And we always have been.
>>
>> Marti even has a new song up on his Soundclick page with Bill Gates
>> voice in it.
>> So how did I manage to forge that?
>
> Greycloud is NOT the original Greycloud.

He's original, I'm 99% sure.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

After swilling some grog, Tattoo Vampire belched this bit o' wisdom:

Odd that Nature would give such the opportunity for procreation.

--
I wish I wasn't ... There's nothing good that comes out of that. You get more
visibility as a result of it.
-- Bill Gates, On being the world's richest man, in an online advertising
conference in Redmond, Washington, as quoted in The Guardian
(5 May 2006)

[chrisv]

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Hadron quacked:

>>
>> You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and morons
>> that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using killfiles
>
>"Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is "censorship".

You know, if he was on trial for the crime of stupidity, the
prosecution could rest, right there.

"Ezekiel" won't say one word about his shit-brain pal's idiotic
statement, though.

--
"Regardless of what Hadron ever did or didn't say - he never made a
public jackass of himself." - trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel", lying
shamelessly

[chrisv]

Tattoo Vampire wrote:

> some piece of shit wrote:
>>
>> I am the original GreyCloud.
>

>No, you're not. And I missed you on the filter update. Fixed now. :-P

Poor "GreyCloud". As worthless as they get. LOL

--
"They are all liars. I've had many issues with linux in just this
year alone. And I'm just about ready to toss out the junk off of my
computer. All it is is hobbyware." - some piece of shit that calls
itself "GreyCloud"

[Steve Carroll]

On Apr 7, 7:53 am, Hadron<hadronqu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> flatfish+++ <phlatph...@yahoo.com> writes:
> > On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 07:11:20 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>

> >> Tattoo Vampire <sitt...@this.computer> writes:
>
> >>> .... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy fix, and no
> >>> more morons in my article list. :-P
>
> >> You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and morons
> >> that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using killfiles
> >> and who screwed up their killfile rules.
>
> >> Well done!
>
> >> And dont forget to add sMarti .. he uses Windows now apparently. But
> >> sounds more like another Greycloud/FLatty/Clog con job to me.
>
> > Hadron, you are completely incorrect.
> > Greycloud, me and sMarti are 3 different people.
>
> > And we always have been.
>
> > Marti even has a new song up on his Soundclick page with Bill Gates
> > voice in it.
> > So how did I manage to forge that?
>
> Greycloud is NOT the original Greycloud.

Nah. Awhile back I made reference to something only the original GC
would know from years ago in CSMA and he unequivocally acknowledged
it.

[chrisv]

Homer wrote:

> Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>>
>> Hadron quacked:

>>>
>>> You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and
>>> morons that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using
>>> killfiles
>>
>> "Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is
>> "censorship".

Yet, magically, *we* are the "morons".

>Presumably in the same way that not attending a Tea Party convention is
>tantamount to "censoring" right-wing extremism.

I "censor" Rush Limbaugh by not listening to his radio show.

Hey, Ezekreep! Are you *sure* that your pal "Hadron" has never made a
public jackass of himself?!?

*Guffaw*

--
"These loons spend most of their time recompiling their kernel or some
other program. And if it isn't that they are trying to go on a sleuth
hunt to try and figure out why the program isn't working right." -

[chrisv]

chrisv wrote:

>Homer wrote:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>>>
>>> Hadron quacked:
>>>>
>>>> You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and
>>>> morons that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using
>>>> killfiles
>>>
>>> "Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is
>>> "censorship".
>
>Yet, magically, *we* are the "morons".
>
>>Presumably in the same way that not attending a Tea Party convention is
>>tantamount to "censoring" right-wing extremism.
>
>I "censor" Rush Limbaugh by not listening to his radio show.
>
>Hey, Ezekreep! Are you *sure* that your pal "Hadron" has never made a
>public jackass of himself?!?

Oh, don't bother answering, Kreep, as I am "censoring" you as well!

>*Guffaw*

--
"(What Micheal Dell said) negates every 'idiotic lie' cola losers have
ever drooled about Microsoft controlling OEMs." - DumFSck, lying
shamelessly

[flatfish+++]

It's the real Greycloud.

[flatfish+++]

On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 09:31:58 -0500, chrisv wrote:


> Yet, magically, *we* are the "morons".

Not magically.
You've worked at it for sometime to reach that level of idiocy.

[Peter Köhlmann]

Well, somewhere on his way he forgot his brain. And has not been able to
find it, so he got a transplant. Unfortunately there were only cockroach
brains on offer

[GreyCloud]

[GreyCloud]

No, just woke up that Linux is a joke.
It is you that have yet to figure it out that linux just plain sux.

[Cola Zealot]

He's still convinced that Linux can't be hacked in 15 minutes from the
outside as shown at DEFCON. < lol >
As an inveterate hardcore Linux loon Dummkopf Kohlmann is never going to
admit that he was wrong all these years.
Maybe he will come to his senses one day to apologize in COLA about his
terrible cock-up's.

[GreyCloud]

On 4/8/2013 1:13 PM, Cola Zealot wrote:
> GreyCloud wrote:

I'm not holding my breath for that ever to happen.

[Hadron]

LOL. I knew you were a paranoid wanker but that stupid statement proves
it beyond all ..

>> it.
>
> It's the real Greycloud.

Dont be stupid.

I dont like the "advocates" as you know but this "greycloud" thing is
one of three things :

1) ex advocate saw the light and now occasionally talks like Clog/flatty
(1% chance)
2) Was "bait" by clog or flatty for a long time to drag twats like
Ahlstrom in (49% chance)
3) Disappeared and clog/flat decided to resurrect him... (the rest)

[-hh]

On Apr 7, 7:38 am, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1...@teleworm.us> wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Hadron belched this bit o' wisdom:
>

> > Tattoo Vampire <sitt...@this.computer> writes:
>
> >> .... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy fix, and no
> >> more morons in my article list. :-P
>
> > You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and morons
> > that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using killfiles
>
> "Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is "censorship".

The action of filtering alone is not.

However, the repeated public declarations of that filtering action is
an attempt to invoke 'peer pressure' and the like, which effectively
is an attempt to censor the filtered individual.




-hh

[flatfish+++]

You can believe what you want, but it's the real greycloud IMHO. The
only thing I can say for certain is that it is not me.

[Peter Köhlmann]

Idiot

So you seem to think that "peer pressure" exists in a group where the
posters don't know each other and where linux advocates disagree on lots of
things every day?
But filtering usenet kooks like Hadron Msg-ID Larry or Snit Michael Glasser
(who even made it on the "kook of the year" list) isn't done on a wide scale
by most poeple who have read that incredible dishonest drivel these
imbeciles post day in and out? That act (which is just extremely logical)
needs "peer pressure"?
You are a retard, and it shows. How incredibly stupid do you need to be to
come to such idiotic conclusions?

[chrisv]

> lying asshole "-hh" wrote:

>>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>> "Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is
>>> "censorship".
>>
>> The action of filtering alone is not.
>>
>> However, the repeated public declarations of that filtering action is
>> an attempt to invoke 'peer pressure' and the like, which effectively
>> is an attempt to censor the filtered individual.

No it's not. You are a effectively a bald-faced liar, "-hh".

If I say "Rush Limbaugh is a lying idiot and not worth listening to",
is that "an attempt to censor" Rush Limbaugh?

You stupid assholes think you can magically twist our freedom of
choice, and our freedom of speech, into "censorship", but it can't
possibly work.

--
"Chrisv has claimed that DistroWatch.com satisfies the call for a
short & easy list of what Linux distros suck and so forth," -
asshole "-hh", lying shamelessly

[flatfish+++]

On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 07:39:10 -0500, chrisv wrote:

>> lying asshole "-hh" wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is
>>>> "censorship".
>>>
>>> The action of filtering alone is not.
>>>
>>> However, the repeated public declarations of that filtering action is
>>> an attempt to invoke 'peer pressure' and the like, which effectively
>>> is an attempt to censor the filtered individual.
>
> No it's not. You are a effectively a bald-faced liar, "-hh".
>
> If I say "Rush Limbaugh is a lying idiot and not worth listening to",
> is that "an attempt to censor" Rush Limbaugh?
>
> You stupid assholes think you can magically twist our freedom of
> choice, and our freedom of speech, into "censorship", but it can't
> possibly work.

Your tin foil hat is strapped on too tightly turdv.

[-hh]

On Apr 9, 8:25 am, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlm...@t-online.de> wrote:
> -hh wrote:
> > On Apr 7, 7:38 am, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1...@teleworm.us> wrote:
> >> After swilling some grog, Hadron belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
> >> > Tattoo Vampire <sitt...@this.computer> writes:
>
> >> >> .... culprit: a few filters I had carelessly set to expire. Easy fix,
> >> >> and no more morons in my article list. :-P
>
> >> > You can join Homer and Dumb Willy in the group of braggarts and morons
> >> > that talk relentlessly about their censorship of the NG using killfiles
>
> >> "Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is
> >> "censorship".
>
> > The action of filtering alone is not.
>
> > However, the repeated public declarations of that filtering action is
> > an attempt to invoke 'peer pressure' and the like, which effectively
> > is an attempt to censor the filtered individual.
>
> Idiot
>
> So you seem to think that "peer pressure" exists in a group where the
> posters don't know each other and where linux advocates disagree on lots of
> things every day?

Yes, and the reason why is because there's no other reason to "share",
other than to elicit a stronger group action.

> But filtering usenet kooks like Hadron Msg-ID Larry or Snit Michael Glasser
> (who even made it on the "kook of the year" list) isn't done on a wide scale
> by most poeple who have read that incredible dishonest drivel these
> imbeciles post day in and out? That act (which is just extremely logical)
> needs "peer pressure"?

What was your *motivation* to go mention specific individuals by name,
Peter?

By any chance is it because you don't believe that they're been
censored (sorry, "filtered") by enough people to make a difference,
and you're trying to solicit additional help?

> You are a retard, and it shows. How incredibly stupid do you need to be to
> come to such idiotic conclusions?

Tsk, tsk - - another lame attempt at an Ad Homenium personal attack.

Peter, you would find it highly beneficial personally if you were to
spend some more time listening instead of spouting bullshit. I
suggest that you take a short train trip to Nuernberg, to research the
historical use of propoganda by the Third Reich and how it was quite
deliberately employed to marginalize various interest groups in their
society, and when.


-hh

[Steve Carroll]

You really didn't need to prove there is yet another word you don't
know the meaning of with your misplaced ranting.

[-hh]

On Apr 9, 8:39 am, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > lying asshole "-hh" wrote:

Once again, the brave warrior 'chrisv' tries to snipe from the
protection of his alleged killfile!

> >> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> >>> "Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is
> >>> "censorship".
>
> >> The action of filtering alone is not.
>
> >> However, the repeated public declarations of that filtering action is
> >> an attempt to invoke 'peer pressure' and the like,  which effectively
> >> is an attempt to censor the filtered individual.
>
> No it's not.  You are a effectively a bald-faced liar, "-hh".

"Effectively", but not "literally"? :-)

> If I say "Rush Limbaugh is a lying idiot and not worth listening to",
> is that "an attempt to censor" Rush Limbaugh?

What was your motivation for taking the specific action to spread that
opinion? Was it done just once, preferably after that subject was
brought up by another? Or did you put it in your .sig file to push
it out as part of your agenda?

You know, a .sig file which looks like this one:

> --
> "Chrisv has claimed that DistroWatch.com satisfies the call for a
> short & easy list of what Linux distros suck and so forth,"  -
> asshole "-hh", lying shamelessly


> You stupid assholes think you can magically twist our freedom of
> choice, and our freedom of speech, into "censorship", but it can't
> possibly work.

Speaking about allegations of restrictions to "Freedom of Choice", it
looks like your Android-based "Can Do No Wrong" poster child of
Google, isn't living up to that principle:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/09/google_android_antitrust_complaint/


As I've said, the *action* of repeated announcements of things like
the contents of killfiles has to have a motivation to support making
the effort. What you've tried to dodge is just what the motivation
is. It is far too systematic and chronic to believably be purely
random.

So!

If this action was not a peer pressure based attempt to silence/
intimidate/censor others as I have suggested ... then just what is its
underlying motivation?


You're just trying to be a playground bully.



-hh

[Snit]

On 4/9/13 5:25 AM, in article kk1171$c5h$1...@dont-email.me, "Peter K�hlmann"

Obviously you and the rest of your herd are strongly influenced by the
pressure you put on each other. You fear displeasing the rest of the herd...
you fear being ostracized. You see what happens to those outside of your
cult-like group, how you go on the war-path and lash out with lies and other
nonsense.

To deny this would be insane.


--

"The UI is developed by experts, except it is shitty, but improvements are
bringing in more and more users, except that Linux is at 1% as usual."
- Brad cc Wiggins

[Chris Ahlstrom]

After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:

> -hh wrote:
>
>> On Apr 7, 7:38 am, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1...@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is
>>> "censorship".
>>
>> The action of filtering alone is not.
>>
>> However, the repeated public declarations of that filtering action is
>> an attempt to invoke 'peer pressure' and the like, which effectively
>> is an attempt to censor the filtered individual.
>
> Idiot

Indeed.

> So you seem to think that "peer pressure" exists in a group where the
> posters don't know each other and where linux advocates disagree on lots of
> things every day?
> But filtering usenet kooks like Hadron Msg-ID Larry or Snit Michael Glasser
> (who even made it on the "kook of the year" list) isn't done on a wide scale
> by most poeple who have read that incredible dishonest drivel these
> imbeciles post day in and out? That act (which is just extremely logical)
> needs "peer pressure"?
> You are a retard, and it shows. How incredibly stupid do you need to be to
> come to such idiotic conclusions?

Now you know why I "censor" -highhorse :-D

--
I’ll enjoy having some people I know who are new to computers play with the
Mac and see if it doesn’t draw them into the excitement of interactive
personal computing.
-- Bill Gates, 1984

[Jeff-Relf.Me]

 
If you insult someone long enough, he will plonk you.

Then you'll have one less reader, one less commenter,
and even Google will pay less attention to you.

Regular Posters of "Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy", ranked [ Text Version ]

[Jeff-Relf.Me]

 
You ( Hugh⋅Huntzinger ) told "NAZI" Peter⋅Köhlmann: ＜＜

  I suggest that you take a short train trip to Nuernberg, to research
  the historical use of propoganda by the Third Reich and how
  it [ deliberately marginalized ] various interest groups ＞＞

Much of the blame should go to the U.S. and U.K. too.

When you bomb the hell out of a country, the poorest die first;
to wit: prisoners, Jews, the lame and insane.

[-hh]

Historically, the bombing of Germany by the Allies occured years and
years after the propoganda intiatives of the Germans upon their own
populations.

For example, the infamous "Crytal Night" action occurred in November
1938:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht

Looking further, one will find that the deliberate marginalization
went back even further, such as the passage of specific legislation as
early as 1933:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewish_legislation_in_prewar_Nazi_Germany


Now this doesn't mean that there wasn't Anti-Semitism elsewhere in the
world ... there of course was. But the level of extremism in Germany
was also arguably also a catalyst and enabler as well.

In any case, the point of mentioning this history is to illustrate
that 'peer pressure' isn't a fiction: there is a long history of
society being subjected to very deliberate manipulative actions.

-hh

[Jeff-Relf.Me]

 
I see, the NAZI's were racist long before the U.S./U.K. intervention;
times were tough back then, families were too large.
Dutch South African Apartheid is a more modern example.

Those who breed like silly rabbits, die like silly rabbits.
Black or White, it's NOT a good idea.
Thanks to porn ( i.e. the internet ), fewer babies are born.

Anywho... "eviction by insult" is a common practice.

[Jeff-Relf.Me]

 
Yes, Hugh⋅Huntzinger, Mr. "chrisv" is a "playground bully".

His insults are an attempt to get rid of people, including me.
[ Ironically, it proves he's reading my posts ]

In contrast, I list those who I like most, to keep them here:

  

[Homer]

Verily I say unto thee that chrisv spake thusly:

>> lying asshole "-hh" wrote:
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Hadron" thinks that filtering content from one's own view is
>>>> "censorship".
>>>
>>> The action of filtering alone is not.
>>>
>>> However, the repeated public declarations of that filtering action
>>> is an attempt to invoke 'peer pressure' and the like, which
>>> effectively is an attempt to censor the filtered individual.
>
> No it's not. You are a effectively a bald-faced liar, "-hh".
>
> If I say "Rush Limbaugh is a lying idiot and not worth listening to",
> is that "an attempt to censor" Rush Limbaugh?
>
> You stupid assholes think you can magically twist our freedom of
> choice, and our freedom of speech, into "censorship", but it can't
> possibly work.

Their freedom of speech is not our obligation to listen.

It's as simple as that.

And I have no power to force others not to listen to the same things I
refuse to listen to. I can advocate it, but ultimately the choice is up
to them. "Censorship" is something else entirely: a single gatekeeper
who blocks access to information, /contrary/ to the wishes of the
reader. But I am not any sort of gatekeeper, I don't own Usenet, and the
only way anyone can filter the same things I do is if they voluntarily
/choose/ to do so, because they happen to share the opinions that I
publicly advocate.

That's no different than a politician campaigning then winning votes.
Is that "peer pressure"? Is it "censorship"?

No, it's just the opposition losing the vote, then whining about it.

But in this case the "vote" is not between politicians, it's between
individuals who value their personal liberty vs. a bunch of corporate
shills trying to take it away from them, with propaganda that supports
criminal monopolists. Then they even have the gall to suggest we
shouldn't be allowed the freedom to choose not to listen to their
propaganda, and our refusal to do so is tantamount to "censorship".

It's hysterical.

Gee, I wonder why anyone would choose not to listen to corporate shills?
Probably for the same reason they'd choose to filter commercial spam, or
choose not read Mein Kampf, or choose not to attend a Tea Party rally.

Naturally the propagandists will whine about their propaganda campaign
being thwarted, but ultimately the fact is: they may be free to speak,
but we are not obligated to listen.

--
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http://slated.org | and blood within this cloak to kill. There is
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | only an idea. And ideas are bulletproof."
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[Hadron]

Exactly the gobby little wimp knows exactly what I mean.

[chrisv]

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Peter K�hlmann belched:

>>
>> lying asshole "-hh" wrote:
>>>
>>> However, the repeated public declarations of that filtering action is
>>> an attempt to invoke 'peer pressure' and the like, which effectively
>>> is an attempt to censor the filtered individual.
>>
>> Idiot
>
> Indeed.

I suppose the lying asshole would claim that there's something wrong
with trying to convice others to vote a certain way on political
issues. Even having a candidate's sign in your front lawn would be
bad.

You see, it's attempting to invoke "peer pressure", so it is
effectively an attempt to deny people their right to vote as they
please.

Sheesh! What a *stupid* fscking *asshole* the "-hh" liar is. How can
these assholes even "show their faces" in here, after making such
*jackasses* of themselves?

[chrisv]

chrisv wrote:

>I suppose the lying asshole would claim that there's something wrong
>with trying to convice others to vote a certain way on political
>issues. Even having a candidate's sign in your front lawn would be
>bad.
>
>You see, it's attempting to invoke "peer pressure", so it is
>effectively an attempt to deny people their right to vote as they
>please.
>
>Sheesh! What a *stupid* fscking *asshole* the "-hh" liar is. How can
>these assholes even "show their faces" in here, after making such
>*jackasses* of themselves?

Cue the lying asshole to claim that anything in the above is a "lie",
when, in fact, it's 100% honest supposition, and quite fair, being not
one bit worse than his "effectively is an attempt to censor" idiotic
assholery.

Cue the lying asshole to claim that this post shows that I read his
response. In fact, I have no idea if he has responded in this thread,
today.

Cue the lying asshole to claim that any of these "cue" statements are
"lies". They are not. They are simply predictions of how a stupid
lying asshole like "-hh" might respond. A quite-fair preemptive
strike against a lying asshole who I have filtered, thus usually have
no opportunity to rebut.

[-hh]

On Apr 10, 10:25 am, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> chrisv wrote:
> >I suppose the lying asshole would claim that there's something wrong
> >with trying to convice others to vote a certain way on political
> >issues.  Even having a candidate's sign in your front lawn would be
> >bad.
>
> >You see, it's attempting to invoke "peer pressure", so it is
> >effectively an attempt to deny people their right to vote as they
> >please.
>
> >Sheesh!  What a *stupid* fscking *asshole* the "-hh" liar is.  How can
> >these assholes even "show their faces" in here, after making such
> >*jackasses* of themselves?
>
> Cue the lying asshole to claim that anything in the above is a "lie",
> when, in fact, it's 100% honest supposition,

It is a supposition, but far from being an "100% honest" one.

The reason why it isn't honest is because all analogies have their
limitations for applicability.

> Cue the lying asshole to claim that this post shows that I read his
> response.  In fact, I have no idea if he has responded in this thread,
> today.

Cue the inclusion of the "...today" caveat as a loophole. ;-)


> ... A quite-fair preemptive strike...

Simply YA attempt to lie to themself so as try to rationalize their
bigotry. It is all quite evident where posters like sMartin get
shitcanned for allegedly "changing sides".


-hh

[GreyCloud]

[-hh]

On Apr 9, 10:06 am, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1...@teleworm.us> wrote:
>
> Now you know why I "censor" -highhorse :-D

Oh, it is quite obvious why: people rarely enjoy being reminded that
they're a hypocrite, bigot and all-around loser, and censuring is an
alternative to being unafraid of change, and working to change one's
self to actually become a better person.


FYI, there was a substantiative response to the poster who you tried
your little "Me Too!" act on, and the recipient of that response has
since logged onto COLA and posted - but not a response here, so they
have appeared to have quietly conceded the point in silence. Of
course, to be fair, they might have instead been busy IRL and not yet
had the time to provide a concise reply, so affording another 48-96
hours as a courtesy is appropriate before dismissing this alternative
and settling on the first.


-hh

[Clogwog]

+1